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« on: January 05, 2005, 01:32:41 AM » |
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I was surprised to learn that a pre-nuptual agreement is not valid forever. In fact, several lawyers have told me that they start to lose value after only a couple of years! After 5 years, they are almost worthless. And if both parties signing the agreement did not receive advice from a lawyer prior to signing the agreement, the agreement is worth even less in the eyes of the law. That means those 'do it yourself' kits are not going to help you much should you actually ever need it.
If you marry someone and you are each not bringing in an equal amount of equity into the marriage, the only way to protect your assets is to get legal advice before making a pre-nuptual agreement, and then to have the document updated every couple of years! Otherwise, be prepared to lose at least half of everything you have!
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« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2005, 09:54:01 PM » |
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Inconsistencies in law :?: When someone signs a business contract, how often will the courts overturn the contract because the buyer did not seek legal advice before they signed the contract? I have always heard the term, "buyer beware" used when a dispute occurs over a misunderstanding or misrepresentation. In other words; you should have done your homework first, and it is just too bad for you that you are unhappy now.
Yet, in the case of a married couple who have second thoughts and want to 'break their contract', the courts seem all too happy to intervene and to overturn a perfectly good document that was duly signed and witnessed. Why is that? Could it be that if a pre-nuptual agreement is considered a valid document that its existence would shorten the time required in court, as it would be an open and shut case? Would this be the end of a whole industry built around marital strife? Is it all about money for the legal system? It would be interesting to hear what someone from the legal profession has to say about this. Why is a contract not a contract when it comes to marriage? What makes a marriage contract any different than any other contract?
If this really is just about money for the system, then perhaps it is time for the people to make their voices heard. Speak up for a law that is fair and consistent, not one that is interested in perpetuating a dispute just to benefit from human suffering.
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« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2005, 09:22:55 AM » |
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I have only one view about the law----------here in the UK-------its hopeless. The world is moving at such a fast pace now that laws that are made quickly go out of date-------- So what you say about a pre-nup doesnt surpirse me. Sueuk
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Robert
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« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2005, 10:03:28 PM » |
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Hey think about that part of BC law:
Live and provide for your spouse (wifes) kids (not yours) for more than one year equal to a dad or step dad.
Guess what, after a split up you are liable for child support or the difference betweeen the real dad's and your income. Doesn't that just suck?
So I guess for me the pre-nuptual agreement thing makes no sense either. But when do laws make sense?
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2005, 10:37:21 PM » |
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Guess what, after a split up you are liable for child support or the difference betweeen the real dad's and your income. Doesn't that just suck?
Yes, that does suck. Unfortunately, some women are making a business of having children with different men just so they can get support from each man! One lady told me her sister has had 6 children with 6 different men and is currently working on #7 even though she hasn't even divorced #6 yet! Come on you law-makers! Wake up! This kind of behaviour is wrong. 
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« Reply #5 on: October 18, 2005, 03:28:41 PM » |
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Yes, that does suck. Unfortunately, some women are making a business of having children with different men just so they can get support from each man! One lady told me her sister has had 6 children with 6 different men and is currently working on #7 even though she hasn't even divorced #6 yet! Come on you law-makers! Wake up! This kind of behaviour is wrong. :evil: At least the REAL Dad pays. In my case it would have been to pay for the kids of another guy just because I provided for 1 year for her and her kids. If you are stupid enough to have a child from a woman who has already 4 from 4 diff men, I don't feel sorry if you end up paying. :lol: However i feel sad for the kids.
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« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2005, 02:56:42 PM » |
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At least the REAL Dad pays. In my case it would have been to pay for the kids of another guy just because I provided for 1 year for her and her kids. If you are stupid enough to have a child from a woman who has already 4 from 4 diff men, I don't feel sorry if you end up paying. :lol: However i feel sad for the kids.
Good point! Under our current law, payments are based upon what you make, not what is reasonable. So when a man who earns a lot gets married to a woman, he pays child support to all her children, regardless of who's the biological Dad, based on his earnings. That could mean he supports her children over and above what the real dad pays. Also, the mothers of these children show by example to the children, that it is OK to live off someone else's back. No wonder society is becoming the way it is. Hardly anyone wants to take responsibility for themself any more! Personally, I wouldn't want a mother like this raising those children. The children, or their offspring, will suffer in the end. :cry:
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« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2005, 03:52:08 PM » |
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Inconsistencies in law :?:
If this really is just about money for the system, then perhaps it is time for the people to make their voices heard. Speak up for a law that is fair and consistent, not one that is interested in perpetuating a dispute just to benefit from human suffering. It really is about money for the lawyers, the system, the whole damn thing. The prenuptial aggreement, what a joke that is, it's the same thing as a whore hanging a "no disease sign around her neck"...lol Do you know that if a Canadian woman lives with an American in Canada, she cannot have the courts go after him for any financial compensation, no matter how long they lived together? People beware, I recommend for everyone contemplating a union to see a lawyer first, the first 30 minutes is free consultation, have all your questions written down. For God sake people do your homework now! Oh by the way Hi! :wink: Lover
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« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2005, 08:44:04 PM » |
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Do you know that if a Canadian woman lives with an American in Canada, she cannot have the courts go after him for any financial compensation, no matter how long they lived together? People beware, I recommend for everyone contemplating a union to see a lawyer first, the first 30 minutes is free consultation, have all your questions written down. For God sake people do your homework now! Oh by the way Hi! :wink:
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Just a couple of comments: 1.) Not all lawyers offer a free half hour of consultation. Ask first! 2.) Getting into a relationship is easy, and most will not even think about the negative side! When in love (or lust), everything is rosy. That's why people should get their friends & relatives to read the material on this web site! They might think that they will never need this information (and I really hope that they don't) but being aware is like having an education... You don't realize how valuable it is until you find out how much trouble you could have avoided if you had it!
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« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2005, 09:10:32 PM » |
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Do you know that if a Canadian woman lives with an American in Canada, she cannot have the courts go after him for any financial compensation, no matter how long they lived together? People beware, I recommend for everyone contemplating a union to see a lawyer first, the first 30 minutes is free consultation, have all your questions written down. For God sake people do your homework now! Oh by the way Hi! :wink:
Lover
Just a couple of comments: 1.) Not all lawyers offer a free half hour of consultation. Ask first! 2.) Getting into a relationship is easy, and most will not even think about the negative side! When in love (or lust), everything is rosy. That's why people should get their friends & relatives to read the material on this web site! They might think that they will never need this information (and I really hope that they don't) but being aware is like having an education... You don't realize how valuable it is until you find out how much trouble you could have avoided if you had it! Yes, it's especially valuable for young people, most of them say it will never happen to them, they will do things differently, it always makes me chuckle and shake my head. Blinded by love or lust is too common, this is the first sign that things in the relationship will go wrong quickly. Parents should approach their older kids to know and learn about divorce laws that can affect them later, not to shock them but to educate them early about relationships based on love at first sight, or lust especially, in most cases this type of interaction is false and deceiving. Parents should approach these issues BEFORE their offsprings are seriously dating, not in the middle of one! As for the lawyer fees, yes ask first indeed!
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2005, 11:40:29 PM » |
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Do you know that if a Canadian woman lives with an American in Canada, she cannot have the courts go after him for any financial compensation, no matter how long they lived together? Lover
Does that mean, it's "safe" to date an American woman in Canada, cause they never could be after you just to take you to the cleaners? (Sorry, but I'm a burned child on that situation) EDIT: I guess I should read twice before commenting :oops: . Second time I missunderstood and commented. Only this time I caught myself :shock: Don't mean to offend any Canadian women on here. Robert NovContest Robert
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